it has now been confirmed that Josef Fritzl fathered 6 of his of grandchildren born to his daughter Elizabeth, that poor family. not just Elizabeth's her 6 surviving children but her 5 other siblings and nephews and nieces. and her mother (if she new nothing about it?) just horrible what they went through. 2 of Elizabeth's daughters were raised up stairs with their grandfather/father and were at the same age he has started abusing Elizabeth. would he have gone on to abuse them?? did he abuse his other children and grandchildren??
Elizabeth's and her 3 children came out with not seeing the sunlight in 24 years for Elizabeth and never for her children. they looked malnourished, pale, and their hair was white.
i can help think this is a v c Andrew's novel. "flowers in the basement"
Lilly
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Barhji appologises to Sree
this may be funnier then the actually slapping!
they (IPL) called a press conference so Barhji could apologises public, then made them HUG!
and now Barhji is off for the rest of the premiership? it was wrong for him to slap him period (although funny, ok Sree crying is funny) but a 10 game band is a bit excessive! Nathan Brown didn't get that much for slapping Trent Barret!
they (IPL) called a press conference so Barhji could apologises public, then made them HUG!
and now Barhji is off for the rest of the premiership? it was wrong for him to slap him period (although funny, ok Sree crying is funny) but a 10 game band is a bit excessive! Nathan Brown didn't get that much for slapping Trent Barret!
Monday, April 28, 2008
Incest in Austria
can you believe this?
father kidnaps his daughter (Elizabeth) who he began raping when she was 11 and held her captive in their basement for 24 years, fathering 7 children to HIS daughter. all the while he lived upstairs with his wife and mother to Elizabeth. reportedly the 3rd, 4th, and 5th babies were "found" on their doorstep over a number of years and raised by their grandparents (or father and step mother) whilst the two oldest and the youngest child being held also in the basement. while one baby who was a twin (babies 5th and 6th) died a few days after birth. the mother of Elizabeth claims she knew nothing of this. i cant help bit a little suspicious. how can you not know your daughter and 3 grandchildren are locked downstairs? the children would be making a lot of noise not to be heard? and how can you not be suspicious about your grandchildren just showing up on your doorstep? (notes left with the babies were confirmed to be in Elizabeth's handwriting) i also have to ask why did they choose those children to lead above ground lives while the others stayed down stairs?
here is the full story
Austrian 'hid daughter in cellar'
The house where the man and his daughter lived
A 73-year-old Austrian is under arrest on suspicion of hiding his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her, police say.
The existence of the woman, believed missing since 1984 and now 42, emerged after a teenager said to be her daughter was taken to hospital.
Both the woman and teenage girl are receiving medical treatment and the other children are in care.
A police investigation in Amstetten, Lower Austria Province, is continuing.
The suspect, named only as Josef F, was arrested on suspicion of incest and keeping his daughter in captivity. He has not responded to the charges against him, police say.
One of the children the man allegedly fathered died in infancy, police believe.
Three children, including the 19-year-old who was taken to hospital, were allegedly kept in the cellar with their mother while the other three reportedly grew up with their grandparents.
DNA tests will be taken to establish whether Josef F was indeed their father.
Placed in care
The alleged crimes came to light after the teenager, named as Kerstin F, was dropped off at the Amstetten hospital last weekend.
KEY FACTS IN CASE
Police secure evidence in the backyard of the suspect's house in Amstetten
Elisabeth reappeared at home after disappearing 24 years ago
Six children she says are hers have been found and placed in care
One of the children, aged 19, is seriously ill in hospital
Elisabeth's father Josef, 73, has been arrested on suspicion of incest and abduction
Cellar case timeline
Finding Kerstin seriously ill, doctors appealed for her mother, who at that time was assumed to be missing, to come forward to provide more details about her medical history.
Josef F allegedly then released the mother and two other children from the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie that she had chosen to return home, police say.
It was not immediately clear how police were alerted.
The mother, named as Elisabeth F, has been receiving medical and psychological treatment since being discovered.
She appeared "greatly disturbed" psychologically during questioning and agreed to talk only after authorities assured her that she would no longer have to have contact with her father, and that her children would be taken care of, police added.
The six children are three boys and three girls aged between five and 20.
Police spokesman Franz Polzer told reporters they were now all in "psychological care in a secure institution in a clinic here in this area".
"They are being cared for individually - those between 12 and 16 years of age who grew up with their grandparents, and two boys who, when they came out yesterday with their mother, saw the daylight for the first time in their lives," he said.
Police said three of the children were registered with authorities and lived with the grandparents.
According to police, Josef F and wife Rosemarie had told authorities the three had been abandoned at birth outside their home - in 1993, 1994 and 1997 - each time, the couple claimed, with a note from Elisabeth saying she could not care for the babies herself.
'Dead baby burnt'
The police issued a statement giving details of the alleged abuses Elisabeth recounted to them.
BBC map
She said she had been sexually abused by her father since the age of 11.
Josef allegedly lured her into the cellar of their house in Amstetten on 28 August 1984, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
It was assumed she had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her asking them not to search for her.
"Abused continuously during the 24-year-long imprisonment", Elisabeth bore six children while a seventh, one of a set of twins, died soon after birth.
The dead baby was allegedly taken out of the cellar and burnt by Josef.
Elisabeth said Josef had provided her and three of her children, who were locked up along with her, with clothing and food.
His wife Rosemarie had allegedly not been aware of what was going on.
The discovery of another Austrian woman, who was held captive in a cellar by an abductor for more than eight years, gripped the country in 2006.
Natascha Kampusch finally escaped from her kidnapper, 44-year-old Wolfgang Priklopil, who killed himself shortly afterwards.
Ms Kampusch was abducted at the age of 10 in 1998 and held in a small, windowless cellar beneath Priklopil's garage in the commuter town of Strasshof, near Vienna.
Austrian detectives study cellar
The house where the man and his daughter lived
Police in Amstetten, Austria, have described the cellar where a woman was allegedly held captive and sexually abused for 24 years by her father.
A series of underground rooms equipped for sleeping and cooking, and with sanitary facilities, lay behind a concealed door, police said.
The father, 73, allegedly had seven children with his daughter, now aged 42, and is under arrest.
Authorities are caring for the daughter and six surviving children.
The small town of Amstetten, about 130km (80 miles) west of Vienna, with its well-kept gardens is in shock, the BBC's Bethany Bell reports.
The case, she notes, is reminiscent of that of Natasha Kampusch, the Austrian teenager held captive in a cellar in a house in a Vienna suburb for eight years, who ran to freedom in 2006.
While police are not connecting the two cases, many Austrians are asking how such matters went undiscovered, our correspondent says.
Door code
Speaking on Sunday evening, Austrian police confirmed they had found the cellar where the daughter, named only as Elisabeth F, was allegedly held along with three of her children.
KEY FACTS IN CASE
Local people watch police at work at the back of the suspect's house in Amstetten
Elisabeth reappeared at home after disappearing 24 years ago
Six children she says are hers have been found and placed in care
One of the children, aged 19, is seriously ill in hospital
Elisabeth's father Josef, 73, has been arrested on suspicion of incest and abduction
Cellar case timeline
Three other children were adopted or fostered by the suspect, named as Josef F, while a seventh allegedly died soon after birth.
Police found the cellar after Josef gave them a code to unlock the hidden door, said Franz Polzer, head of the Lower Austrian Bureau of Criminal Affairs.
"There is not only one, but a number of rooms: one room to sleep in, one to cook, and there are also sanitation facilities," he said.
The floor is uneven and the hallway "very narrow" while the door is "very small", and one has to bend one's head to get through, he added.
"Everything is very, very narrow and the victim herself, the mother of these six or seven children, told us that this was being continually enlarged over the years," Mr Polzer said.
The area also contained sanitary facilities and "small hot plates" for cooking.
DNA tests
Elisabeth is receiving medical and psychological treatment and her children are in care, police said.
BBC map
Her eldest daughter, Kerstin, is in hospital with a serious illness.
The 19-year-old's admission to hospital a week ago, after allegedly being hidden in the cellar with her mother and two siblings, sparked new interest in the whereabouts of Elisabeth.
When she disappeared on 28 August 1984, her parents had received a letter in her handwriting asking them not to search for her, and it was assumed she had run away from home.
However, according to Elisabeth's testimony to police, that day Josef had in fact lured her into the cellar, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
Allegedly, he had already been sexually abusing her from the age of 11.
After Kerstin fell ill, doctors appealed for her mother to come forward to provide details about her medical history.
Josef then released both Elisabeth and the remaining two children from the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie that she had chosen to return home, police say.
Police arrested him shortly afterwards and took the children into care, along with the three who had been adopted or fostered.
Rosemarie appears to have been unaware of the suspected crimes of her husband.
DNA tests are to be taken to establish whether Josef F was the father of the six surviving children.
Timeline: Austrian cellar case
A timeline of events in the case of a woman in Amstetten, Austria, allegedly held and sexually abused by her father for 24 years in his cellar, during which time she is believed to have given birth to seven of his children.
The events included are based on an Austrian police statement issued after the arrest of the 73-year-old father.
28 AUGUST 1984
The suspected abductor, Josef F, allegedly lures his daughter Elisabeth into the cellar of their house, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
DATE UNKNOWN
Josef and his wife Rosemarie receive a letter in Elisabeth's handwriting saying they should not try to look for her. Rosemarie is unaware of the truth, Elisabeth later tells police.
1988-89 (APPROXIMATELY)
Kerstin, the first of seven reported children, is secretly born (exact date unknown) and raised in the cellar. She is followed shortly by a brother.
1993
A baby is discovered outside the family home along with a letter from Elisabeth saying she cannot care for it. It is taken in by Josef and his wife. A second infant appears in 1994. Both are either fostered or adopted, and are raised by their grandparents.
1996
Twins are born to Elisabeth but one dies shortly after birth and is allegedly taken away and burnt by Josef. The following year, a third infant appears at the house, and is taken in like the previous two, to be raised by grandparents.
2003
A letter arrives from Elisabeth to say she had another baby in December 2002. This child is believed to have been brought up in the cellar along with Kerstin and her brother.
SATURDAY 19 APRIL 2008
Police issue an appeal to missing person Elisabeth F to contact them about her daughter Kerstin, who has been admitted to hospital in Amstetten with a serious illness.
19-27 APRIL 2008
At some point during the week, according to the police statement, Josef releases Elisabeth and the two other children in the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie she has chosen to return home.
SATURDAY 26 APRIL 2008
Police discover Elisabeth and her children at the house.
SUNDAY 27 APRIL 2008
Police announce the arrest of Josef on suspicion of incest and abduction. All the children are placed in care and Elisabeth is given medical and psychological treatment. Kerstin remains in hospital "fighting for her life".
father kidnaps his daughter (Elizabeth) who he began raping when she was 11 and held her captive in their basement for 24 years, fathering 7 children to HIS daughter. all the while he lived upstairs with his wife and mother to Elizabeth. reportedly the 3rd, 4th, and 5th babies were "found" on their doorstep over a number of years and raised by their grandparents (or father and step mother) whilst the two oldest and the youngest child being held also in the basement. while one baby who was a twin (babies 5th and 6th) died a few days after birth. the mother of Elizabeth claims she knew nothing of this. i cant help bit a little suspicious. how can you not know your daughter and 3 grandchildren are locked downstairs? the children would be making a lot of noise not to be heard? and how can you not be suspicious about your grandchildren just showing up on your doorstep? (notes left with the babies were confirmed to be in Elizabeth's handwriting) i also have to ask why did they choose those children to lead above ground lives while the others stayed down stairs?
here is the full story
Austrian 'hid daughter in cellar'
The house where the man and his daughter lived
A 73-year-old Austrian is under arrest on suspicion of hiding his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her, police say.
The existence of the woman, believed missing since 1984 and now 42, emerged after a teenager said to be her daughter was taken to hospital.
Both the woman and teenage girl are receiving medical treatment and the other children are in care.
A police investigation in Amstetten, Lower Austria Province, is continuing.
The suspect, named only as Josef F, was arrested on suspicion of incest and keeping his daughter in captivity. He has not responded to the charges against him, police say.
One of the children the man allegedly fathered died in infancy, police believe.
Three children, including the 19-year-old who was taken to hospital, were allegedly kept in the cellar with their mother while the other three reportedly grew up with their grandparents.
DNA tests will be taken to establish whether Josef F was indeed their father.
Placed in care
The alleged crimes came to light after the teenager, named as Kerstin F, was dropped off at the Amstetten hospital last weekend.
KEY FACTS IN CASE
Police secure evidence in the backyard of the suspect's house in Amstetten
Elisabeth reappeared at home after disappearing 24 years ago
Six children she says are hers have been found and placed in care
One of the children, aged 19, is seriously ill in hospital
Elisabeth's father Josef, 73, has been arrested on suspicion of incest and abduction
Cellar case timeline
Finding Kerstin seriously ill, doctors appealed for her mother, who at that time was assumed to be missing, to come forward to provide more details about her medical history.
Josef F allegedly then released the mother and two other children from the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie that she had chosen to return home, police say.
It was not immediately clear how police were alerted.
The mother, named as Elisabeth F, has been receiving medical and psychological treatment since being discovered.
She appeared "greatly disturbed" psychologically during questioning and agreed to talk only after authorities assured her that she would no longer have to have contact with her father, and that her children would be taken care of, police added.
The six children are three boys and three girls aged between five and 20.
Police spokesman Franz Polzer told reporters they were now all in "psychological care in a secure institution in a clinic here in this area".
"They are being cared for individually - those between 12 and 16 years of age who grew up with their grandparents, and two boys who, when they came out yesterday with their mother, saw the daylight for the first time in their lives," he said.
Police said three of the children were registered with authorities and lived with the grandparents.
According to police, Josef F and wife Rosemarie had told authorities the three had been abandoned at birth outside their home - in 1993, 1994 and 1997 - each time, the couple claimed, with a note from Elisabeth saying she could not care for the babies herself.
'Dead baby burnt'
The police issued a statement giving details of the alleged abuses Elisabeth recounted to them.
BBC map
She said she had been sexually abused by her father since the age of 11.
Josef allegedly lured her into the cellar of their house in Amstetten on 28 August 1984, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
It was assumed she had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her asking them not to search for her.
"Abused continuously during the 24-year-long imprisonment", Elisabeth bore six children while a seventh, one of a set of twins, died soon after birth.
The dead baby was allegedly taken out of the cellar and burnt by Josef.
Elisabeth said Josef had provided her and three of her children, who were locked up along with her, with clothing and food.
His wife Rosemarie had allegedly not been aware of what was going on.
The discovery of another Austrian woman, who was held captive in a cellar by an abductor for more than eight years, gripped the country in 2006.
Natascha Kampusch finally escaped from her kidnapper, 44-year-old Wolfgang Priklopil, who killed himself shortly afterwards.
Ms Kampusch was abducted at the age of 10 in 1998 and held in a small, windowless cellar beneath Priklopil's garage in the commuter town of Strasshof, near Vienna.
Austrian detectives study cellar
The house where the man and his daughter lived
Police in Amstetten, Austria, have described the cellar where a woman was allegedly held captive and sexually abused for 24 years by her father.
A series of underground rooms equipped for sleeping and cooking, and with sanitary facilities, lay behind a concealed door, police said.
The father, 73, allegedly had seven children with his daughter, now aged 42, and is under arrest.
Authorities are caring for the daughter and six surviving children.
The small town of Amstetten, about 130km (80 miles) west of Vienna, with its well-kept gardens is in shock, the BBC's Bethany Bell reports.
The case, she notes, is reminiscent of that of Natasha Kampusch, the Austrian teenager held captive in a cellar in a house in a Vienna suburb for eight years, who ran to freedom in 2006.
While police are not connecting the two cases, many Austrians are asking how such matters went undiscovered, our correspondent says.
Door code
Speaking on Sunday evening, Austrian police confirmed they had found the cellar where the daughter, named only as Elisabeth F, was allegedly held along with three of her children.
KEY FACTS IN CASE
Local people watch police at work at the back of the suspect's house in Amstetten
Elisabeth reappeared at home after disappearing 24 years ago
Six children she says are hers have been found and placed in care
One of the children, aged 19, is seriously ill in hospital
Elisabeth's father Josef, 73, has been arrested on suspicion of incest and abduction
Cellar case timeline
Three other children were adopted or fostered by the suspect, named as Josef F, while a seventh allegedly died soon after birth.
Police found the cellar after Josef gave them a code to unlock the hidden door, said Franz Polzer, head of the Lower Austrian Bureau of Criminal Affairs.
"There is not only one, but a number of rooms: one room to sleep in, one to cook, and there are also sanitation facilities," he said.
The floor is uneven and the hallway "very narrow" while the door is "very small", and one has to bend one's head to get through, he added.
"Everything is very, very narrow and the victim herself, the mother of these six or seven children, told us that this was being continually enlarged over the years," Mr Polzer said.
The area also contained sanitary facilities and "small hot plates" for cooking.
DNA tests
Elisabeth is receiving medical and psychological treatment and her children are in care, police said.
BBC map
Her eldest daughter, Kerstin, is in hospital with a serious illness.
The 19-year-old's admission to hospital a week ago, after allegedly being hidden in the cellar with her mother and two siblings, sparked new interest in the whereabouts of Elisabeth.
When she disappeared on 28 August 1984, her parents had received a letter in her handwriting asking them not to search for her, and it was assumed she had run away from home.
However, according to Elisabeth's testimony to police, that day Josef had in fact lured her into the cellar, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
Allegedly, he had already been sexually abusing her from the age of 11.
After Kerstin fell ill, doctors appealed for her mother to come forward to provide details about her medical history.
Josef then released both Elisabeth and the remaining two children from the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie that she had chosen to return home, police say.
Police arrested him shortly afterwards and took the children into care, along with the three who had been adopted or fostered.
Rosemarie appears to have been unaware of the suspected crimes of her husband.
DNA tests are to be taken to establish whether Josef F was the father of the six surviving children.
Timeline: Austrian cellar case
A timeline of events in the case of a woman in Amstetten, Austria, allegedly held and sexually abused by her father for 24 years in his cellar, during which time she is believed to have given birth to seven of his children.
The events included are based on an Austrian police statement issued after the arrest of the 73-year-old father.
28 AUGUST 1984
The suspected abductor, Josef F, allegedly lures his daughter Elisabeth into the cellar of their house, drugging and handcuffing her before locking her up.
DATE UNKNOWN
Josef and his wife Rosemarie receive a letter in Elisabeth's handwriting saying they should not try to look for her. Rosemarie is unaware of the truth, Elisabeth later tells police.
1988-89 (APPROXIMATELY)
Kerstin, the first of seven reported children, is secretly born (exact date unknown) and raised in the cellar. She is followed shortly by a brother.
1993
A baby is discovered outside the family home along with a letter from Elisabeth saying she cannot care for it. It is taken in by Josef and his wife. A second infant appears in 1994. Both are either fostered or adopted, and are raised by their grandparents.
1996
Twins are born to Elisabeth but one dies shortly after birth and is allegedly taken away and burnt by Josef. The following year, a third infant appears at the house, and is taken in like the previous two, to be raised by grandparents.
2003
A letter arrives from Elisabeth to say she had another baby in December 2002. This child is believed to have been brought up in the cellar along with Kerstin and her brother.
SATURDAY 19 APRIL 2008
Police issue an appeal to missing person Elisabeth F to contact them about her daughter Kerstin, who has been admitted to hospital in Amstetten with a serious illness.
19-27 APRIL 2008
At some point during the week, according to the police statement, Josef releases Elisabeth and the two other children in the cellar, telling his wife Rosemarie she has chosen to return home.
SATURDAY 26 APRIL 2008
Police discover Elisabeth and her children at the house.
SUNDAY 27 APRIL 2008
Police announce the arrest of Josef on suspicion of incest and abduction. All the children are placed in care and Elisabeth is given medical and psychological treatment. Kerstin remains in hospital "fighting for her life".
Sunday, April 27, 2008
THE funniest moment is cricket history??
i have to admit the crying is sooooo funny, did barhji slap See? i dont know but why would he cry like that after just wining?
Saturday, April 26, 2008
junkies, whores, stalkers and sex
i guess everyone that knows me knows im a tv junky, and unfortunately im a reality tv junky, i admit to watching, biggest looser, both australian and american versions, Big brother, aus idol, so u can dance both aus and us versions, next top model both aus and us versions, survivour, and amazing race. (i think thats it)
australia's next top model premiered this week, got and what a bunch of winging, spoiled, know it all, brainless, freaky, fake, bitchy, bitchy!, immature, dick-head girls ( can i invest in these girls? meh perhaps not, i love the aspects of the show so will i keep watching this years season, yeah i will)
those who see me frequently on line spend a day with me, know im also a facebook junky, i took time to convert over to facebook, i go on facebook probably 10 times a day via my mobile, then spent almost every-night on there, i have with drawls when im not on line lol. i maybe a facebook junky, but im not a facebook whore, (someone who collects friends on facebook). i know im getting close, since i have now more then 10 friends who are non-flesh friends (ppl i have met in facebook chat) and we all know im a facebook stalker (someone who goes through ppls pages, profiles, photos, friends, blogs ect)
its strange how blogs can make u candid even more candid than u normally are, everyone who has played "i have never!" knows im a pretty candid person, if u ask guarantee u'll almost certainly get the answer from me, truthfully, i'm especially candid about my sexuality, there was a stage i was known as the nymph-bi among my friends, and everyone knows i challenged my self to kiss all my girl-friends one year, kim im still waiting lol, one of my tafe friends got sick of me turning up on mondays telling him what i got up to on the weekend which was mostly likely what state of undress i became in public, who did i flash in night clubs? maybe i have no filters between my brian and mouth for that sorta of thing, so i'll put a filter in my typing and leave out the very sorted rest.....
sorry i'm leaving you hanging, but maybe you dont want to know, and i need to protect others identities too
australia's next top model premiered this week, got and what a bunch of winging, spoiled, know it all, brainless, freaky, fake, bitchy, bitchy!, immature, dick-head girls ( can i invest in these girls? meh perhaps not, i love the aspects of the show so will i keep watching this years season, yeah i will)
those who see me frequently on line spend a day with me, know im also a facebook junky, i took time to convert over to facebook, i go on facebook probably 10 times a day via my mobile, then spent almost every-night on there, i have with drawls when im not on line lol. i maybe a facebook junky, but im not a facebook whore, (someone who collects friends on facebook). i know im getting close, since i have now more then 10 friends who are non-flesh friends (ppl i have met in facebook chat) and we all know im a facebook stalker (someone who goes through ppls pages, profiles, photos, friends, blogs ect)
its strange how blogs can make u candid even more candid than u normally are, everyone who has played "i have never!" knows im a pretty candid person, if u ask guarantee u'll almost certainly get the answer from me, truthfully, i'm especially candid about my sexuality, there was a stage i was known as the nymph-bi among my friends, and everyone knows i challenged my self to kiss all my girl-friends one year, kim im still waiting lol, one of my tafe friends got sick of me turning up on mondays telling him what i got up to on the weekend which was mostly likely what state of undress i became in public, who did i flash in night clubs? maybe i have no filters between my brian and mouth for that sorta of thing, so i'll put a filter in my typing and leave out the very sorted rest.....
sorry i'm leaving you hanging, but maybe you dont want to know, and i need to protect others identities too
its not all about the hair.....ok maybe it is
when i was first diagonsed with cancer, and chemo was on the cards, i didnt really care about loosing my hair, i asked my heam and she said i would loose it, then one of my chemo nurse, said i wouldnt, loose it and by that stage i kinda want to, for 3 reason, "to get the full cancer experience", to see what i looked like without hair (when would i have the guts to satisfy that curiosity) and i could experiment with different hairstyles as my hair was growing back.
then i began to loose it, and all the reasons to loose flew out the window and i did care it fell out. i was worried because i like my eyes and my smile and i thought they loose that with my hair gone, and i dont think i really smiled for a few days after it. ppl said i was lucky cos i have normal if not small ears. i hated how i looked a lot more like my brother now. no one tells you u dont actually stay bald, my hair grows back in patches, which looks crap. and when it was falling out i felt like a dog malting. my sister, jen, jamie and adrian cut and shaved my hair after it fell out too much. when i started going out without my hairs and wearing scarves i hated it, it wasn't that i fell insecure or anything it was just now everyone i looked at or everyone that looked at me knew i had cancer, its like a walking display bored. i know resent putting them on somedays, and somedays i forge that im wearing them at all. what i hate the most is i think i look fat without hair, which ppl are going to say is crazy talk, but i really do think it makes me look chunky. and it has nothing to do with the 15 kilos i have stacked on since chemo began, which eveyone thinks is fantastic, but i loved how my legs and but looked when i was super slim, mmmm..........
then i began to loose it, and all the reasons to loose flew out the window and i did care it fell out. i was worried because i like my eyes and my smile and i thought they loose that with my hair gone, and i dont think i really smiled for a few days after it. ppl said i was lucky cos i have normal if not small ears. i hated how i looked a lot more like my brother now. no one tells you u dont actually stay bald, my hair grows back in patches, which looks crap. and when it was falling out i felt like a dog malting. my sister, jen, jamie and adrian cut and shaved my hair after it fell out too much. when i started going out without my hairs and wearing scarves i hated it, it wasn't that i fell insecure or anything it was just now everyone i looked at or everyone that looked at me knew i had cancer, its like a walking display bored. i know resent putting them on somedays, and somedays i forge that im wearing them at all. what i hate the most is i think i look fat without hair, which ppl are going to say is crazy talk, but i really do think it makes me look chunky. and it has nothing to do with the 15 kilos i have stacked on since chemo began, which eveyone thinks is fantastic, but i loved how my legs and but looked when i was super slim, mmmm..........
Friday, April 25, 2008
sydney harbour
on wednesday i took jack to sydney to take him on a ferry since has never been on one before. he was so excited because he said he had never seen the harbour bridge or the opera house either. when we pulled into circular quay he was saying "oh my god, its soo cool!" when went down to the ferry terminal and i was planing to go full circle around the harbour, then catch a ferry to neutral bay then have lunch with adrian. jack was very excited when we got of the ferry then when we stared moving, he immediately wanted to get off and became sea sick. so when we got to darling harbour instead of going back around to circular quay we got off and walked up to adrian's work. the longest walk of my life!, it was raining, uphill, lung infection, 5 year old saying how much longer?, and i became overheated so i had to stop off at a shop any buy a t-shirt and bra.
we met adrian's work jack liked going up to see adrian's office "adrian is very busy!" after lunch i asked jack did he want to go home or catch another ferry. he said he did (amazingly) so we jumped on a train back to circular quay and caught a ferry to watson's bay and back this time he loved it. then we came back home a good day all in all.
we met adrian's work jack liked going up to see adrian's office "adrian is very busy!" after lunch i asked jack did he want to go home or catch another ferry. he said he did (amazingly) so we jumped on a train back to circular quay and caught a ferry to watson's bay and back this time he loved it. then we came back home a good day all in all.
lung infection
when i went to my nan's last thursday i noticed that the air was making me feel uncomfortable when i breathed. then over the weekend i had more troubles breathing like when i was walking up the stairs at home, yawning, talking at my normal pace, being outside in the cold. and twice i had real trouble catching my breath.
when i went in to chemo on tuesday i knew i had a lung function test (i actually didn't until 6th of may but thought it was on tuesday) the test showed some difference since the last time and so my heam sent me for a xray.
then when the scans came back, she came up to me in the chemo suit and sent me for a ct scan. and called down my respiratory doctor to speak to me.
the possibilities where either i had an infection in my lungs (requiring antibiotics) or one of the chemo drugs were causing toxicity in my lungs (requiring steroids)
the radiologist couldn't decide which it was so i was put on both. two antibiotics since im allergic to penicillin. and my chemo was held off for a week to give my lungs a break, and from now on the drug that causes the lung toxicity will be left out of the chemo combo.
when i went in to chemo on tuesday i knew i had a lung function test (i actually didn't until 6th of may but thought it was on tuesday) the test showed some difference since the last time and so my heam sent me for a xray.
then when the scans came back, she came up to me in the chemo suit and sent me for a ct scan. and called down my respiratory doctor to speak to me.
the possibilities where either i had an infection in my lungs (requiring antibiotics) or one of the chemo drugs were causing toxicity in my lungs (requiring steroids)
the radiologist couldn't decide which it was so i was put on both. two antibiotics since im allergic to penicillin. and my chemo was held off for a week to give my lungs a break, and from now on the drug that causes the lung toxicity will be left out of the chemo combo.
Monday, April 21, 2008
New IVF research
found this article online about IVF, man i would like to sign up for the test trails yes i am desperate!
IVF pregnancy rates could double and the incidence of serious complications, such as miscarriage and pre-eclampsia, could be halved after a technological breakthrough in fertility research.
Scientists at the University of Adelaide have created a new type of culture which they say will help embryos better survive their five days out of the womb, and help the foetus and placenta develop more normally.
The head of the research team, Claire Roberts, said yesterday the culture, used successfully to grow mice embryos, was "absolutely fantastic" and could change the face of fertility treatments.
"Until now, the culture most commonly used has not been particularly conducive to the survival of embryos, which is one of the main reasons we don't have a very high success rate in IVF," she said.
Women in their 20s have about a 40 per cent chance of falling pregnant through IVF with that dropping to about 15 per cent for women in their late 30s.
But the new culture contains three molecules which exist in the birth tract fluids of all mammals, making it easier for embryos to grow and implant successfully in the uterus.
"It has long been thought that the culture used in IVF alters the way the embryo develops and affects the interaction between the embryo and the mother, which compromises the development of the placenta," Associate Professor Roberts said.
Poor placental growth results in miscarriage, intrauterine growth restriction, haemorrhage and premature births. Women who have undergone IVF are three times more at risk of these complications than women who have conceived naturally.
Human trials are expected to begin within two years and if successful, could help the 15 per cent of couples who are infertile or suffer from recurrent miscarriages.
The new culture could also help researchers achieve the "holy grail" of IVF - a single embryo transfer, which reduces the incidence of multiple pregnancies and maximises the chance of a successful pregnancy.
A fertility expert with IVF Australia, Michael Chapman, said it was still difficult to artificially mimic the human body when creating embryo cultures.
"Mice are not men - or women, so we have to approach this with a fair degree of caution, but if it is proven safe in humans this is a great step forward," Professor Chapman said.
IVF pregnancy rates could double and the incidence of serious complications, such as miscarriage and pre-eclampsia, could be halved after a technological breakthrough in fertility research.
Scientists at the University of Adelaide have created a new type of culture which they say will help embryos better survive their five days out of the womb, and help the foetus and placenta develop more normally.
The head of the research team, Claire Roberts, said yesterday the culture, used successfully to grow mice embryos, was "absolutely fantastic" and could change the face of fertility treatments.
"Until now, the culture most commonly used has not been particularly conducive to the survival of embryos, which is one of the main reasons we don't have a very high success rate in IVF," she said.
Women in their 20s have about a 40 per cent chance of falling pregnant through IVF with that dropping to about 15 per cent for women in their late 30s.
But the new culture contains three molecules which exist in the birth tract fluids of all mammals, making it easier for embryos to grow and implant successfully in the uterus.
"It has long been thought that the culture used in IVF alters the way the embryo develops and affects the interaction between the embryo and the mother, which compromises the development of the placenta," Associate Professor Roberts said.
Poor placental growth results in miscarriage, intrauterine growth restriction, haemorrhage and premature births. Women who have undergone IVF are three times more at risk of these complications than women who have conceived naturally.
Human trials are expected to begin within two years and if successful, could help the 15 per cent of couples who are infertile or suffer from recurrent miscarriages.
The new culture could also help researchers achieve the "holy grail" of IVF - a single embryo transfer, which reduces the incidence of multiple pregnancies and maximises the chance of a successful pregnancy.
A fertility expert with IVF Australia, Michael Chapman, said it was still difficult to artificially mimic the human body when creating embryo cultures.
"Mice are not men - or women, so we have to approach this with a fair degree of caution, but if it is proven safe in humans this is a great step forward," Professor Chapman said.
Saturday, April 19, 2008
Nan
on thursday mum, jack and i went down to my Nan's in New Berrima to have lunch. mum and jack wanted to go on the train, so we went on the train, its soo long. it takes an hour and half to get to moss vale. a train trip i made back and forth for 4 years while i was studying in moss vale. i took jack on the train when he was 2 to hand in an assignment and he cried for a 3rd of the trip but this time he enjoyed it ( well he is 5 now!) i read him the cat in the hat. but by mittagong he was asking "is this our stop?"
anyways we get to mossie and my uncle picked us up. my nan had chemo in bowral so we waited for nan to come home.
then we went to mossie to have lucnh
man this sounds sooo excited so far!!
after we had lucnh we came home with my aunty gill and she told mum and i that my nans doctors wantb to stop her chemo and after that they will only give her a few months to live. and they plan to stop the chemo in a week or two.
stupidly i was a bit shocked becos nan has always conveyed that she is getting better, and is healthy ( apparently that is the chemo) i didnt think she would be cured but i didnt think it will happen so quikly either.
anyways we get to mossie and my uncle picked us up. my nan had chemo in bowral so we waited for nan to come home.
then we went to mossie to have lucnh
man this sounds sooo excited so far!!
after we had lucnh we came home with my aunty gill and she told mum and i that my nans doctors wantb to stop her chemo and after that they will only give her a few months to live. and they plan to stop the chemo in a week or two.
stupidly i was a bit shocked becos nan has always conveyed that she is getting better, and is healthy ( apparently that is the chemo) i didnt think she would be cured but i didnt think it will happen so quikly either.
Friday, April 18, 2008
tired exhausted
i have been tired and exhausted all week this week, i hardly slept on the weekend, then all week i had normal hours of sleep, but woke up totally exhausted and tired with my body aching.
so i spent most of the week laying around wishing i could have a massage,
i got one on wednesday but by the afternoon was needing another one!
and still now i need one!
so i spent most of the week laying around wishing i could have a massage,
i got one on wednesday but by the afternoon was needing another one!
and still now i need one!
Monday, April 14, 2008
Sunday, April 13, 2008
60 Mins - Forbidden love
i cant believe that i didnt post on this during the week it was on my mind all week.
a few weeks ago on CI (foxtel channel) i watched a doco on genetic sexual attraction (GSA) where blood relatives who have not grown up together, meet later in life and fall in love. it was a UK based doco so they discussed 3 cases from the UK and Spain.
one a man who fell in love with his half sister, which resulted in them having an affair, and lead to prosecution.
2nd a women who fell in love with her son she had given up for adoption as a baby, her desire for closeness freaked him out and they dont really have contact now
and 3 a spanish couple full brother and sister who were abandon by their parents and met when they were in their 20s fell in love and now love as husband and wife and have 2 children, spain has actually changed the law so they are allowed to live together as man and wife in all sense of the word.
then on sunday last week 60 minutes shocks australia with John and Jenny Deaves, a father and daughter who had little contact untill jenny was 30 and fell in love. they now live as husband and wife with jenny's 2 children from her previous marriage and their own 11 month old baby. read the story here
this story exploded around australia all week people were talking about and everyone had an opinion, more bits of the story came through the media, and people were asking why? how?
the couple have responded to the media backlash over t he story here is what they have to say
for me it totally grosses me out that a father and daughter are having this relationship. i can understand how a brother and sister one can form. but a parent/child one is different the parent was there at conception and would of had ideas of this child growing up. its very strange, i could not get my head around sleeping with your daughter/son.
i also think that they should not have had a child, no matter what. and that if they want to live like this, fine who am i to judge but why go on 60 minutes and open yourself up to the backlash they have received they must of known that it was going to happen, and that their children will have to go to school and live with THEIR decisions now amongst their school friends!
weirdly enough though this whole concept (GSA) i was exposed to when i was 13, the first novel i ever read Dawn by VC Andrews, tells the story of a girl who is reunited with her birth family only to discover her boyfriend that she is dating is her brother. the brother cant except this and obsesses about her for the rest of his life, but she ends up marring a man she grew up thinking was her brother.
i enjoyed the story (not the incest aspects!) and as i do chose to read more books from VC Andrews/ Virginia Andrews. and the first book after dawn i choose is Flowers in the Attic. her most popular book she wrote. it tells the story of a wife who suddenly losses her husband, she is left broke with her 4 children, so she goes home to her parents to reunite with them, her father will leave her millions if she has no children to the man she chose to marry against his wishes. so she hides the children for 4 yrs in the attic of the mansion waiting for her father to die. whist in the attic the two elder children fall in love and later we learn the reason why the rich father disapproved of his daughters marriage was because she married her brother.
strangely enough this theme features in most of VC Andrews books and flowers in the attic was suppose to based on a true story
a question we have to ask though in the days of sperm and egg donation is this going to happen more and more? will it eventually become an accepted part of society?
Thoughts about world evil
last week adrian and i watched these documentaries on Hitler and Auschwitz-Birkenau. these docos always interest me, i have a strange fascination with them, ill watch them and be totally disgusted and horrified every-time i watch them, the whole Holocaust and all the atrocities committed during world war 2 is the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the human race, and the people responsible one of true evils on earth.
whilst i was watching i also went on wikipedia and did some further reading. its just amazing that it just ever happened, amazing that people let it happen. so i was moved to search a poem that haunts me when i read it.
so i thought ill post it here.
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
Pastor Martin Niemöller
there is actually many verations of the poem so i posted one and for the others click here
this whole fascination and i use the word for a lack of a better one i cant find right now i guess started when i read a little book for english when i was 13-14 in year 8 (1995) it broke my heart! and certainly changed by perceptions on evil
it was called Friedrich by Hans Peter Richter (1968)
whilst i was watching i also went on wikipedia and did some further reading. its just amazing that it just ever happened, amazing that people let it happen. so i was moved to search a poem that haunts me when i read it.
so i thought ill post it here.
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
Pastor Martin Niemöller
there is actually many verations of the poem so i posted one and for the others click here
this whole fascination and i use the word for a lack of a better one i cant find right now i guess started when i read a little book for english when i was 13-14 in year 8 (1995) it broke my heart! and certainly changed by perceptions on evil
it was called Friedrich by Hans Peter Richter (1968)
Saturday, April 12, 2008
Pet scan results, Horton hears a who, and boots and costumes
i got my pet scan results back yesterday. my heam says it is all inactive except my spleen, im happy but i was expecting the good news. but i still dont know what to think about it all, it stills feel like i was just diagnosed, i WAS just diagnosed!
so hopefully i will finish off my chemo cycles 3 and half to go thats 7 treatments. then i will be able to get the all clear to fall pregnant and will!
i took jack to see Horton Hears a Who today which was a good movie, i love Dr Suess books everything about them, the linguistics, the illustrations, and the infinity of Dr Suess's imagination. i grew up with my dad and mum reading them to me in fact "The Cat and the Hat" was the first book i read
later i met up shopping with my friends and cousins we had lunch and shopped. i decided i needed long boots today i have always wanted a pair and have shopped around for 8 years trying to buy them, but have never found a decent pair that fits but now my legs are slimmer so i looked today and found some!! yay and they were cheep. im using them as part of a costume for Adrian's 21st. its a sinners and saints theme so im going as a dominatrix or sinner of some sort, i have the boots, fishnets, handcuffs, and wips ect. i looked in bras and things for some costumes tried on two, the skirts were a bit short. we later went to a adult shops and found really expensive crappy costumes. so ill probably go the ones in bras and things
anyway im in chat so ill get going
cia till next time
so hopefully i will finish off my chemo cycles 3 and half to go thats 7 treatments. then i will be able to get the all clear to fall pregnant and will!
i took jack to see Horton Hears a Who today which was a good movie, i love Dr Suess books everything about them, the linguistics, the illustrations, and the infinity of Dr Suess's imagination. i grew up with my dad and mum reading them to me in fact "The Cat and the Hat" was the first book i read
later i met up shopping with my friends and cousins we had lunch and shopped. i decided i needed long boots today i have always wanted a pair and have shopped around for 8 years trying to buy them, but have never found a decent pair that fits but now my legs are slimmer so i looked today and found some!! yay and they were cheep. im using them as part of a costume for Adrian's 21st. its a sinners and saints theme so im going as a dominatrix or sinner of some sort, i have the boots, fishnets, handcuffs, and wips ect. i looked in bras and things for some costumes tried on two, the skirts were a bit short. we later went to a adult shops and found really expensive crappy costumes. so ill probably go the ones in bras and things
anyway im in chat so ill get going
cia till next time
Thursday, April 10, 2008
Petscan
i had a pet scan today to see if the chemo is working
i had a full entourage mum dad and paul
i had a full entourage mum dad and paul
Tuesday, April 8, 2008
chemo day!
i had chemo again today the start of cycle 3, 5th treatment.
i cant believe im almost half way through!
its still all unreal.
i had a very busy day
up at 6 im was tired still i had 6 hours of sleep, but i only had 3 the night before.
at 6.45 a volunteer from the leukemia foundation picked me up to drive me in it was absolutely packed on all roads so i got to the hospital about 45 mins late. but i was straight into the blood sisters then straight into my drs. then i had a chest xray, i was in the radiologist for about 15mins! thats like a RPA record!! then i went over to the page pharmacy and dropped my script off so i was only there for 5mins! another record! then beth and i ( i didnt mention above my sister came today) went to have breakie at the cafe. i then rushed up to the chemo unit and met my social worker, the cancer council is paying my mobil bill for this month and im getting $230 worth Woolworth's vouchers which is almost a month worth of groceries for us.
my chemo was at 11 but i didnt get it till 3. then i got out at just after 5.30. and the same leukemia foundation guy picked us up.
now im really tired and tired and exhausted!!
i should go off to bed!
i cant believe im almost half way through!
its still all unreal.
i had a very busy day
up at 6 im was tired still i had 6 hours of sleep, but i only had 3 the night before.
at 6.45 a volunteer from the leukemia foundation picked me up to drive me in it was absolutely packed on all roads so i got to the hospital about 45 mins late. but i was straight into the blood sisters then straight into my drs. then i had a chest xray, i was in the radiologist for about 15mins! thats like a RPA record!! then i went over to the page pharmacy and dropped my script off so i was only there for 5mins! another record! then beth and i ( i didnt mention above my sister came today) went to have breakie at the cafe. i then rushed up to the chemo unit and met my social worker, the cancer council is paying my mobil bill for this month and im getting $230 worth Woolworth's vouchers which is almost a month worth of groceries for us.
my chemo was at 11 but i didnt get it till 3. then i got out at just after 5.30. and the same leukemia foundation guy picked us up.
now im really tired and tired and exhausted!!
i should go off to bed!
Monday, April 7, 2008
footy tips
okay i got 1 from 8 this week, last week i got the away tips because i forgot to tip
but this week no excuse im over tipping!!
but this week no excuse im over tipping!!
Saturday, April 5, 2008
slide shows
Easter Eggs
man im soo glad in a way we couldnt afford easter eggs this year.
normally adrian and i go crazy buying each other about 1.5 kilos of chocolate, (no lie!) so this year we had less then half maybe even a 1/4 the chocolate we normally get. for the first time in years i was able to finish all my eggs! normally next easter comes and i still have eggs, i actually threw out a egg from the fridge that i got 2 years ago a couple of days ago.
yes i like to savour my eggs lol,
im not really into rich chocolate either im happy just with cadbury or nestles eggs, i dont like red tulip, lindt or darrell lea.
this year i didnt need chocolate either!
i have been eating not stop sugar since my first chemo and my teeth feel like they are full of holes now
i used to be soo good with sugar too and ate very little in my diet, i need to stop eating it!!!
normally adrian and i go crazy buying each other about 1.5 kilos of chocolate, (no lie!) so this year we had less then half maybe even a 1/4 the chocolate we normally get. for the first time in years i was able to finish all my eggs! normally next easter comes and i still have eggs, i actually threw out a egg from the fridge that i got 2 years ago a couple of days ago.
yes i like to savour my eggs lol,
im not really into rich chocolate either im happy just with cadbury or nestles eggs, i dont like red tulip, lindt or darrell lea.
this year i didnt need chocolate either!
i have been eating not stop sugar since my first chemo and my teeth feel like they are full of holes now
i used to be soo good with sugar too and ate very little in my diet, i need to stop eating it!!!
Footy, Jack and Circuses
okay i can see this is going to be a bad NRL season for me in the tipping
last week i got 0 from 8, 0!!!
and i tips wrong last night
:(
this sucks
we had jack over last night and im taking him to the circus today,
his actually yelling at me to get out of the bad so i gotta run
last week i got 0 from 8, 0!!!
and i tips wrong last night
:(
this sucks
we had jack over last night and im taking him to the circus today,
his actually yelling at me to get out of the bad so i gotta run
Thursday, April 3, 2008
finances finances
man its been tough with no pay
i applied for centerlink payments and was rejected because they claim adrian earns too much,but we used all his pay on bills and had no pay left and still have bills, i lodge an appeal today so hopefully it gets reversed.
i also looked into getting some of my old super out.
im getting a lift on tuesday and thursday to rpa from the lift is from the leukemia foundation, i kinda feel guilty uterlising this service because i have a car i just cant afford the petrol.
our washing machine blew up too its just all happening lol
my new book is out so adrian brought it for me today yeah!, i love these books from linda fairstein its like reading svu i cant wait to get stuck into it.
i applied for centerlink payments and was rejected because they claim adrian earns too much,but we used all his pay on bills and had no pay left and still have bills, i lodge an appeal today so hopefully it gets reversed.
i also looked into getting some of my old super out.
im getting a lift on tuesday and thursday to rpa from the lift is from the leukemia foundation, i kinda feel guilty uterlising this service because i have a car i just cant afford the petrol.
our washing machine blew up too its just all happening lol
my new book is out so adrian brought it for me today yeah!, i love these books from linda fairstein its like reading svu i cant wait to get stuck into it.
Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Finding Lymphoma
In January i got back to work and my boss was scared how skinny i had become, i had lost more weight over christmas (i know who losses weight at christmas!)
she told me to go to the doctors to get checked out it was the 8th of jan
i went in and talked about the weight lost and the lack of appetite and the exhaustion/tiredness i was feeling, i spoke about my back pain, the doctor checked out my lymph nodes, n0 swelling,
then i coughed he asked how long i had the cough for and i had said about 8 weeks so he sent me for a chest x ray.
on saturday i went for the chest x ray i thought they just find bronchitis or something like that. after the radiologist looked at the films they came to see me and were trying to get in touch with my gp to run a ct that day, he told me he thought it could be a typical pneumonia or another lung infection. he couldnt contact my gp so i was given the films and told to go to my gps asap on monday so he could order the ct. i read the report on my home and saw among the possibilities of pneumonia was lymphoma. a google search that night told me lymphoma is cancer and falls under blood disorders. i checked the symptoms and sore i had all the symptoms, so i was officially freaked out
on monday my gp ordered the ct. and i had it on tuesday. by tuesday afternoon my gp was saying lymphoma. (the 15th jan my grandfathers birthday)
and i was sent for a biopsy to confirm the next day.
i had a fine needle biopsy on wednesday and my gp refereed me to a hematologist at RPA. that afternoon the results were back in saying inconclusive.
on friday i went to see my heam. she consulted with a respiratory specialist who thought it might be TB so the following tuesday i had a bronco-spy where they took biopsys from my lungs again inconclusive and no tb,
on wednesday i had pet scan that showed swollen lymph nodes in my neck, under arms, chest, lungs, spleen, stomach and surrounding my spine and my groin
on thursday (31st jan) i had a further ct and a biopsy on my groin
that afternoon i was admitted to hospital and lymphoma was confirmed
hodgkins the next day.
while i was in hospital they started me on steroids, i had a bone marrow biopsy, a mri scan and a biopsy on the lymph nodes in my back.
and i started chemo (6th feb)
i was officially diagnosed with Hodgkin's Lymphoma stage 4B
i was told ill need 6 months of chemo 6 cycles with two treatments in each cycle 2 weeks apart.
i have since had two full cycles, 4 treatments.
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